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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Manuel18 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:49 pm

johnsinden wrote:Manuel, there is a photo here of the Class 395 cab - it probably differs slightly from the 373, but it might give you some ideas. Note the combined accelerator/brake lever.

Keep up the good work

John

http://www.therailwaycentre.com/UK%20News%20Oct%202007/021007_Ashford.html

Thanks a lot, well, "Aux Commandes du Eurostar(On the Controls of Eurostar)" on youtube is very helpfull too on AWS device.

I need use the combined accelerator/brake lever, its not the first time i create a 3D Cab, but with KVB and TVM it is.

On several cases, Locomotives like a DB Siemens Electric Locos "BR182" use just a Accelerator level and independient brake system, but this time, for the Eurostar its different, there is a fuction to use "Dynamic Brake incluides in the Accelerator" , so, this is it, i'm going to use Combined Accelerator / Brake Lever, more realistic huh ?

Here is the a Pictures , on the Cab, there is a huge work to do.


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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Quork on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:06 pm

Manuel18 wrote:On several cases, Locomotives like a DB Siemens Electric Locos "BR182" use just a Accelerator level and independient brake system
Huh, what do you mean? The DB class 182 ("Taurus" in Austria, OeBB classes 1016/1116) has four levers: Vsoll and F on the left (target speed selector for the AFB speed assistance system and force lever, which either determines max. force if AFB is active or target force if AFB is inactive), Fbrv and the "Bremssteller" (brake valve for pneumatic brake and target force lever for dynamic (=electric) braking) on the right, just like any modern (=post-70's) loco in continental Europe (except for the Vsoll-lever, which of course is only existant on vehicles equipped with an AFB system) like DB classes 111 or 120 to pick some older classes.
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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by johnsinden on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:25 pm

Quork, I'm sure you're right, but don't you think that such advanced braking systems would be too "advanced" to incorporate into OpenBve. Or has somebody done this already?
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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Quork on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:15 am

Well to be honest, that's not advanced at all. I know in GB it is not usual to have two levers for the brakes, but this also surely hasn't been so always. Every locomotive has a lever for the pneumatic (=train) brake and most locos (starting with steam engines with the Riggenbach brake in 1871, electrical locos starting with the first resistor brakes somewhere in I think the twenties, later recuperation brakes starting with the use of solenization engines in the 70's, not sure when it started with diesel vehicles) (i.e. all locos with dynamic brakes) have a lever for the dynamic (=loco) brake. My sentence about modern, post-70's locos referred not to the brakes but to the power lever, which before was a wheel.

I'm well aware that OpenBVE doesn't reflect the differentiation between the two braking systems at all (except for the setting in the panel file, which of course is static then), it has always been >the< downpoint of OpenBVE. I had posted about this back then in the dev forum, but it didn't seem Michelle really cared as far as I remember. It would have to be done with a plugin which would completely override the user interface of OpenBVE (e.g. have power settings 1-100 for the dynamic brake and 101-200 for acceleration)...
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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Manuel18 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:14 am

A short Clip, now i upgraded Bogies and Articulated units, coaches textures, apply Eurostar logo on all carriages, also the 3D Cab work with TVM but i dont show the 3D Cab on this video.

However, i need work on the sound, CAB Model, KVB , Pressure Needles, Digital Speedometer

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by johnsinden on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:06 pm

Manuel, that's absolutely fantastic - well done. Please keep the French lady's voice, she sounds soooo sexy. I'm sure more people would travel by train if they heard her voice every day. It would brighten up everybody's commuter run to work.

Well Done

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by rick1984 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:19 am

have to say that external looks very good. you've got the curves smooth where I've seen others have a sharp edge. (on different trains)

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Manuel18 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:39 am

Cab News, now i need create the controls, apply KVB , Clock , Disconnect, Reset Disconect , Horn, Emergency brake, and i'm done.







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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Manuel18 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:45 am

rick1984 wrote:have to say that external looks very good. you've got the curves smooth where I've seen others have a sharp edge. (on different trains)

Its a simply external train, also i think on create the interior, but that take a lot of time, my first version is this, a simply external, but, there are limitations. "with the nose off course"

PD: I'm Not using Blender or Canvas programs , i prefer the Free method, that is the reason my trains looks like a bit simply.

I asume my challenges, its time to reveal this train at the French , the first time i play the LGV Route with that train, i said : "what is this train?, dear god, seriously?" , i expect a better train "on exterior", but that train is my "Teacher" on KVB and TVM systems, , but like some people say "if dont like the train, do yourself", that is why i'm doing, my favourite train.

Soo, i just write the code on a csv file, the last train i've done , had 8759 lines per wagon and a textures 3650 pixels per 760 pixels and 2048 x 2048, with full detailed interior, this is a torture for me.

johnsinden wrote:Manuel, that's absolutely fantastic - well done.
Please keep the French lady's voice, she sounds soooo sexy. I'm sure
more people would travel by train if they heard her voice every day. It
would brighten up everybody's commuter run to work.

Well Done

John

That lady voice is in the route, you play on that route, you will listen every time that voice, only when the train depart at the "Gare" or "Station", but there is a exception on it "rame TGV" she need say "rame Eurostar" this is not a TGV Train, BY THE NOW, the Special TGV or GNER livery, could be released after at Eurostar 1.0 version.
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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by hurricanemk1c on Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:55 pm

Don't forget - the GNER sets were shorter than the normal Eurostars.

Great work Manuel - would love to drive this when it's ready. Have a few memories of travelling on the GNER sets
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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Manuel18 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:48 pm

New Sounds.

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Ready the Accelerator and Reverser

Post by Manuel18 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:35 pm

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Stephen Cross on Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:02 am

Hi,

Looks great and importantly so from in the cab where Drivers tend to operate their trains from is excellent. The externals look good in screenies or as passing trains, though not what a driving sim's primary role is.

Bye for now,

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by kieranharvey on Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:11 am

You are doing a brilliant job with this Smile.

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Re: Class 373 Eurostar

Post by Manuel18 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:07 pm

Stephen Cross wrote:Hi,

Looks great and importantly so from in the cab where Drivers tend to operate their trains from is excellent. The externals look good in screenies or as passing trains, though not what a driving sim's primary role is.

Bye for now,

Stephen.

Sure , it does, its compatible with KVB and TVM on LGV Route, that add more realistic "first role driving sim" on train system

I had some issues with Class 373 GNER, that train use AWS but i dont have a special UKtrainsys.dll to run it.

I had 2 choices, create a 2D Cab with that system, or release the train without that system.

To end, here are 2 Class 373 "Eurostar and TGV Livery trains, on my new blog , that is the 0.95 version, is not completed, i need finish the KVB and Brake needles indicators

http://hstopenbve.blogspot.com/p/eurostar.html
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