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Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:55 am

I have a feeling that copying will do if you use the command line and perform "regsvr32" afterwards...
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Post by alvinhochun on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:07 am

I have a feeling that everything will be fine if you have your display driver installed and latest DirectX runtime installed.
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Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:32 am

alvinhochun wrote:I have a feeling that everything will be fine if you have your display driver installed and latest DirectX runtime installed.

Not neccesarily; for example if the sim requires specific libraries from DirectX 9, DirectX 11 or whichever higher version could be of no use. This is also why BVE was not compatible with Vista, remember?
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Post by graymac on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:48 am

Whoever invented Vista should be taken out the back door and publicly shot.
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Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:52 am

graymac wrote:Whoever invented Vista should be taken out the back door and publicly shot.

Why is that? Don't you like them abusing your CPU and memory? Very Happy
I have heard some opinions that the long delay between XP and Vista has left Microsoft standing on the edge of a big deep hole. And as they say, Vista was a HUGE step forwards!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by alvinhochun on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:05 pm

Derryck wrote:
alvinhochun wrote:I have a feeling that everything will be fine if you have your display driver installed and latest DirectX runtime installed.

Not neccesarily; for example if the sim requires specific libraries from DirectX 9, DirectX 11 or whichever higher version could be of no use. This is also why BVE was not compatible with Vista, remember?
Then I must add: I am having it running properly on my Windows 7 computer for two days. (Nothing DX9 had been added, so BVE2/4 can't run on my machine Razz) AMD Radeon HD4250 integrated

Though on my XP machine it states that my videocard does not meet the minimum requirement affraid
(P.S. I know that Intel integrated graphics sucks. Not to say for a P4 age board)


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Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:11 pm

alvinhochun wrote:Then I must add: I am having it running properly on my Windows 7 computer for two days. (Nothing DX9 had been added, so BVE2/4 can't run on my machine Razz)

Though on my XP machine it states that my videocard does not meet the minimum requirement affraid

Then you're either lucky, or Microsoft realized they have produced a pile of garbage (the DX editions without support for older software) and fixed it in later releases. What is your graphic card then? Maybe it's just the auld XP not knowing its worth... or maybe you should buy a more decent one, who knows. Very Happy
Have you actually tried running BVE 2/4, or you're just guessing? It would be interesting to know for sure...
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Post by graymac on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:12 pm

A huge step forwards into a big, deep hole??? Very Happy

XP wasn't bad. I have kinda got used to Win7, though haven't learned to love it. But I encountered a machine with Vista for the first time this week.
It is the most ILLEGITIMATE thing I have ever seen. A b*stard wh*re's son of a lady dog.

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Post by thehoviskid on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:14 pm

Our department at work has vista. Everyone else has since decided to stick with XP.....
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Post by Tstageman on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:15 pm

Update:

It must have been the first time I copied the .dlls it didn't copy them properly as when I tried it again, it worked fine!

The game itself is quite good, seems to give you a chance to have a go at all aspects of driving a train, including controlling the trains, setting paths and things like that, so something that Open doesn't yet have. However, there is only the one route which has very little scenery, however, it still gives you an interesting drive and the details on the train stock are very good. I'd thoroughly recommend it to anyone with a little bit of hard drive space available, whereas I wouldn't see it as an alternative to Open as they do different things, its definitely got the makings of a good train driving simulator.

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Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:16 pm

graymac wrote:A huge step forwards into a big, deep hole??? Very Happy
Yep, got it right. Very Happy

thehoviskid wrote:Our department at work has vista. Everyone else has since decided to stick with XP.....
Most fortunately we have Win7 at work... well, I am not quite sure why 32-bit, when there is 4GB of memory in the PC, but anyway. I am used to them, since I have the 64-bit version at home, works just about smoothly. Smile
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Post by alvinhochun on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:25 pm

Haven't actually written my comments on the Metro Simulator yet, so it's here:

It is quite a good simulator. Having networked track system, ability to couple and decouple, detailed timetable(s), real different power sources (overhead vs 3rd rail vs locomotive), a full fixed block signalling system (though I still haven't managed to understand the actual speed limits) and fully-working AI. This is a simulator that I had wished to have.

But if the signalling part can be better, i.e. having an easier-to-use signalling panel like SimSig, there could be more fun...

Some note: on my system those lights (head/tail-lights, signal lamps) aren't showing correctly. They sometimes vanished when the viewpoint (location/direction) is changed.
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Post by Quork on Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:23 pm

You'll laugh, but many auxiliary systems in modern vehicles run on Windows 3.11 - sounds ridiculous, but it's simply consequent. First: The processors used are from the 3.8.6-PC era, as they are best tested of all CPUs ever made simply due to having been 'round for so long already. Their limited computing capacity isn't enough for modern OSs. Second: Windows 3.11 has exactly the same quality. Third: Further on, Windows 3.11 has enough multithreading ability for the needed applications while being economical on resources; you don't exactly need Aero and Direct3D and stuff for timetables, do you? ;-)
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Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:27 pm

Well, I was assuming thez were using Win 95 as 3.11 were the first "public" version. But to be honest I am not that surprised, really, for performing graphically and possibly even mathematically simple tasks - why not. Smile
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Post by Quork on Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:39 pm

I've seen 95 or even 98 booting on a brand-new timetable computer I think. However 3.11 is still widely popular; many casses are working with it as well, as far as I know.
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Post by thehoviskid on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:06 pm

Derryck wrote:
graymac wrote:A huge step forwards into a big, deep hole??? Very Happy
Yep, got it right. Very Happy

thehoviskid wrote:Our department at work has vista. Everyone else has since decided to stick with XP.....
Most fortunately we have Win7 at work... well, I am not quite sure why 32-bit, when there is 4GB of memory in the PC, but anyway. I am used to them, since I have the 64-bit version at home, works just about smoothly. Smile

Ah, we got it with 1GB. After much petitioing, we managed to get "identified" PCs upgraded to 2GB, but no corporate programme to do so.
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Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:12 pm

Yep, the memory extension would be a huge help for Vista to perform better.
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Post by thehoviskid on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:25 pm

Radical improvement. It was flat out with 1GB, 12 mins to log on. We used to have a "what to do while you're waiting for Vista" suggestion board
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Post by Egg on Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:48 am

many auxiliary systems in modern vehicles run on Windows 3.11
Perhaps that's why our Hyundai had to be scrapped because it would occasionally run fully rich...
I can think of no reason why Win3.1 or Win 95 would be used these days, when Linux is very capable, can be compiled to run on older hardware, and is much more stable.

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Post by mrknowitall on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:28 pm

i think this run8 program has defiantly got potential
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Post by Quork on Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:05 pm

Simple. Windows 3.11 has its certificates, it has people liable for it. Linux hasn't. No sane railway safety board will accept non-certified software in the railway sector.

OpenSource is great, no doubt; but safety-relevant areas are no place for it. It is the place of fully certified, thoroughly checked soft- and hardware with clear liabilities and responsibilities. And I'm quite happy with this.
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Post by rick1984 on Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:34 pm

Is  Rail3D simliar to RailSim2? I quite liked the latter but it was very buggy, though I see there is a 2013 version I may try.


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