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Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 1:18 pm

I want to create a OpenBVE/BVE 4 route by hand in CSV. Could anyone give some tips or suggestions and also tell me what would be required in order to do this? (like a set of objects)
I've read the How to create a route in CSV! Part 1 and 2 by ipaclansite of BVEStation and Route Building guide by Dennis Lance already by now, do I need to read something else or should I proceed to start coding?

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Post by theflyingoreo on Fri May 11, 2012 1:22 pm

The 2 guides you mentioned should be enough already.

Get coding Very Happy

Out of curiosity is it a fictional or non fictional route?

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Post by mrknowitall on Fri May 11, 2012 1:24 pm

Learn what type of format you wish to go for, .csv or .b3d Razz if you don't fully understand either file, or where to start from get them here


http://www.bve4trainz.co.uk/learningtodevelop
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Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 1:24 pm

Fictional. I'll be thinking of a real line later. Razz
(Are you from Sydney? I'm too from there! Cheers mate)

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Post by BruceS on Fri May 11, 2012 1:24 pm

Hello there!

Well, I'm faily new to all this myself, and well I started after reading Dennis Lance's tutorial, however the only other thing I'd say is to read/print the .csv route refrence for OpenBVE, however I cannot find it anywhere (Lost my printed copy and I want to refer to it right now myself!).

Also, you can use other people's objects (dont forget to check the licences), however many people on here I'm sure will encourage you to build your own objects too (somthing I suffer todo).

And if your intrested, my route thread:
http://bveworldwide.unlimitedboard.com/t376-northern-network

Bruce. Smile

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 1:25 pm

SO many replies at once! Me Bewildered!
Thanks for the suggestion though~

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 1:27 pm

mrknowitall wrote:Learn what type of format you wish to go for, .csv or .b3d Razz if you don't fully understand either file, or where to start from get them here


http://www.bve4trainz.co.uk/learningtodevelop
I'd be going for .CSV


BruceS wrote:Hello there!

Well, I'm faily new to all this myself, and well I started after reading Dennis Lance's tutorial, however the only other thing I'd say is to read/print the .csv route refrence for OpenBVE, however I cannot find it anywhere (Lost my printed copy and I want to refer to it right now myself!).

Also, you can use other people's objects (dont forget to check the licences), however many people on here I'm sure will encourage you to build your own objects too (somthing I suffer todo).

And if your intrested, my route thread:
http://bveworldwide.unlimitedboard.com/t376-northern-network

Bruce.

Yes, I'm gonna look at some object building tuts out there. Well it's worth a look at your thread too, Smile

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Post by theflyingoreo on Fri May 11, 2012 1:29 pm

Yep, also from Sydney.

Learning object building will also be a good choice however Bruce's advice is also very useful.

Also heres one of my current work in progress productions if interested.

http://bveworldwide.unlimitedboard.com/t54-cityrail-northern-line-wip

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 1:32 pm

Yep, also from Sydney.

Learning object building will also be a good choice however Bruce's advice is also very useful.

Also heres one of my current work in progress productions if interested.

http://bveworldwide.unlimitedboard.com/t54-cityrail-northern-line-wip

I want to really expand the Australian content for BVE. But the problem lies in the fact that there's not much of objects available.

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by theflyingoreo on Fri May 11, 2012 1:34 pm

I encountered that when I first started my route. Got over that hurdle easily by building my own stuff.

What I can't get over is the weird stares I get when photographing the ground, garbage bins etc etc for textures Laughing

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Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 4:13 pm

@RachelBerryFan47: My sentiments exactly. Wink

So folks, expect I'm started on coding in Notepad++ and started collecting objects and stuff etc., and I'll be updating my progress (With photos ) whenever I get free time (obviously on the weekends where there's no work hopefully)...
It'll be a English fictional route (name undecided, will be taken at the end of development) but might take a long time to collect objects.

Thanks guys for your suggestions, further suggestions are welcome, Very Happy

BTW, I'm having serious difficulties registering into BVEStation Forums, if anyone could lend a hand, it'd be great. Thanks.

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Dexter on Fri May 11, 2012 4:17 pm

Well, if you want to learn coding, you could probably have a look to the "College of Knowledge", where links to a few tutorials can be found...
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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 4:21 pm

Hmm could anyone help me with these questions in order to register to BVEStation? My answers are in BOLD, so please cross-check it.

What letter does BVEStation start with?: B

Name the author of the original BVE, and BVE 4: Mackoy

17 / 3 then find the remainder: 2

Exterior views is present on which version of BVE?: OpenBVE

MTA New York City __________ (Fill in the blank): ?? (Transit?)

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by graymac on Fri May 11, 2012 4:24 pm

You can start coding a simple route without needing much in the way of objects. Get some practise in before you begin anything a bit more ambitious. Following Denis Lance's tutorial is the best way, I found. It worked for me at least.
You DO need to become adept at object making if you hope to make a really satisfying route.
I find the .b3d format quickest and tidiest for objects. Though it really makes little difference, you can reference both in the route structure namespace.

What I can't get over is the weird stares I get when photographing the ground, garbage bins etc etc for textures
Maybe we should get some special T-shirts, have "If found please return to the local asylum" printed on them Very Happy
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Post by Dexter on Fri May 11, 2012 4:24 pm

Yep, should be Transit...
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Post by graymac on Fri May 11, 2012 4:29 pm

could anyone help me with these questions in order to register to BVEStation?
If it's not straightforward to join it ain't worth joining. Obviously pitched at the average US citizen rather than a global membership. I did register ages ago, and found little of interest there. The only reason I bothered at all at all was to promote Ballyfeckin to the poor 'aul paddies who emigrated!! Which they're doin' all over again now cos we're busted!
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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 5:10 pm

I tried the following questions, and it's displaying


An Error Has Occurred!

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Dexter on Fri May 11, 2012 5:16 pm

So you'd better let go I'd say... no idea what that would be.
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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Fri May 11, 2012 5:19 pm

I'm gonna give up registering.. Sad

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Post by Dexter on Fri May 11, 2012 5:23 pm

Well, I guess the solution will be found sooner rather than later - some guys from BVE Station are also registered here, so maybe they'll give you a clue.
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Post by theflyingoreo on Fri May 11, 2012 6:16 pm

There was a new registration system in place due to spambots.

I am registered on there as well under the same name but as I registered before the new changes I am unable to help. However Dj Hammers or Chris[CT1660] could be of assistance to you.

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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Sat May 12, 2012 2:34 am

So, as expected I started coding, and ended up with a picture taken via route viewer.

The background is cool.


Building up.. A curve at 15 degrees



Double line curve at 15 degrees to the right.



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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by alvinhochun on Sat May 12, 2012 1:13 pm

Perhaps you can try my Route Editor for route editing than Notepad++. It has (almost) complete syntax highlighting which is somehow better than no syntax highlighting at all.
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Re: Tips for building my first route

Post by Damian John Wit on Sun May 13, 2012 4:11 am

Aren't you alvinwong? I'm a BIG BIG fan of you and your works! Your site is funny now lol, but I downloaded right now and I must say it deserves a lot of praise and I can see you put a hell lot of hardwork in it...

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Post by alvinhochun on Sun May 13, 2012 7:15 am

Oh I really don't know that there is a 'BIG BIG fan' of me. I thought I only have some sorts of stupid word.
And you even bookmarked my website? Hmmm... Rolling Eyes
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