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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by viccylinefan on Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:18 am

mrknowitall wrote:We have a new train to upload so they better be quick. Ben

Ooh! Is it a bird, is it a plane? No it's a train made by a Northerner that doesn't give a shite about what he does, he just rushes it! Very Happy (Only joking of course, your trains are fab!).

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:17 am

Who put ten pence in you?
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by bve trains on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:51 am

mrknowitall wrote:Ahh, we have had an email explaining the problem, will be up within a few days time. We have a new train to upload so they better be quick. Ben
what train is it a class 91 i hope Very Happy

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:30 am

Back up and running
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Post by class318fan on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:06 am

yh, hows the class 91 getting on

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:22 am

ITs getting there
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Post by class318fan on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:33 am

yay, are you going to be doing the pretendolino or is that the class 82 DVT?

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Post by pedned on Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:29 pm

class318fan wrote:yay, are you going to be doing the pretendolino or is that the class 82 DVT?
"Pretendolino" set, is with a DVT, and it's usually a class 90 hauling it, not a 91.

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Post by tonytrainsfree on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:24 pm

mrknowitall wrote:Back up and running
good to hear that it is back up and running keep up the good work

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:57 pm

Class 43 HST With HQ exterior to be added within a week, Sorry for not been around had soo much behind the scenes work its untrue! Smile
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:01 am



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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by SnowHill150001 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:28 am

I can only say that looks excellent!

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:30 pm



Just a few more screenies of the new 180 on test Smile
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by Adelante107 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:55 pm

class318fan wrote:yay, are you going to be doing the pretendolino or is that the class 82 DVT?
DVT's do not have a class. They are trailers... You either get a Mark 3 or a Mark 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_Van_Trailer
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by Neil on Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:18 pm

Looks brilliant, also seen the FGW HST pic as well, which also looks awesome
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by Tstageman on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:29 am

Actually, DVTs do have a class, they are designated Class 82, the 82/1 being the Mark 3 variant and the 82/2 being the Mark 4 variant. Plus the other 82/3 wandering around now on the Chiltern line.

Great 180 Ben.

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by thehoviskid on Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:18 pm

No, and employing that methodology, the Mk3b BFOs on the FGW Sleeper are Class 17/1 and therefore one of these:

Ummmm......

DVTs are numbered in the coaching stock sequence in the 82XXX series, which lies within the Non Passenger-Carrying coaching stock sequence (used for full-brakes, Parcels vans/GUVs/TPOs and full kitchens), with each of the three varieties numbered in a different hundred for clarity. They are not, never have been, and never can be Class 82 because they can't move unless something else shoves them. All in all, a bit of a drawback for a locomotive.

There is occasionally some confusion because of some limited renumbering of Mk1 BGs from 920XX to 929XX (class 92s introduced) and a few Class 101 vehicles (then the Class 59/1s arrived). This was undertaken because it was decided that, while it was possible to have a locomotive, a vehicle in an MU set, and an item of coaching stock with the same running number, the situation was best avoided and as various fleets were thinned out, the few cases where there were overlaps were attended too. It never created the issue people thought it might, so I was told, due to the way a consist created up on TOPS.

All bear a TOPS code of NZA in the coaching-stock sequence:
N- Non-Passenger Carrying
Z- Specific to the type- they stuck these at the end
A- Air Brake only
there are subsequent parts to that code identifying individual varieties.

So there you go. It's a souped-up brake van.


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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by hurricanemk1c on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:17 pm

It's a 45 ton bike shed, as one railwayman put it. It hits cows well as well.

When the Mk3 DVT's were introduced, there was still some Class 82's around (a la 82008), hence they were 821XX
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by thehoviskid on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:32 pm

I remember seeing the Royal Mail chaps loading one at Preston, not long after they started using them (as opposed to towing thwn both ways) and he was telling his chums they'd converted some of these new ones to run off batteries. Hmm, Glasgow-Euston powered by battery? Why has no-one thought of that since?

I never did get to see the Euston ECS locos, but i did see 83009 during it's transformer phase at Longsight. I do remember the loud whine that 81s used to make though- i lived in Lancaster on the opposite side of town, and they used to sound cracking on a summer night.
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by Quork on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:44 pm

Umm... Do I get it right you still don't use UIC-numbers for vehicles in the UK? Fascinating...
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by thehoviskid on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:57 pm

European numbers? How very dare you! Do you know know that numbers were invented in this country?

There keeps being mutterings about applying them, and what format they need to take, but not much seems to have happened. I suppose, apart from the specific routes and trains that use the tunnel, stuff stays over here. Even Class 92s don't work past The Other End Of The Tunnel.
I think the number ranges may be allocated but they just don't stick all the supernumerary digits on.
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:00 pm

Please can we stick to topic, talk about your own subject in a relavent thread. Smile
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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by rick1984 on Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:21 pm

The class 180 looks good. Done really well with the curves

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by mrknowitall on Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:21 am




some more screenies of the "hart of the north" on test Smile

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Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

Post by Dexter on Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:08 pm

Nice, the only thing I would add would probably be a shadow under the train... Smile
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