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Post by rick1984 on Mon May 21, 2012 5:35 pm

Good news! Graymac wil be able to cary on working his genius and we'll have a map.

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Re: Waterville to Newbridge

Post by hurricanemk1c on Mon May 21, 2012 7:05 pm

Just a quick question - do people want a route map like Irish Rail provide or a 'detailed' map with speed limits etc?
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Re: Waterville to Newbridge

Post by Quork on Mon May 21, 2012 7:10 pm

I'd say both. A PSR guide is of importance as well as a quick oversight map.
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Post by alex_farlie on Mon May 21, 2012 8:02 pm

Quork wrote:I'd say both. A PSR guide is of importance as well as a quick oversight map.

Well what you seem to be describing in terms of a PSR guide is something called a 'sectional appendix', not sure what the equivalent
DB term is.

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Post by Quork on Mon May 21, 2012 8:35 pm

I know the term PSR guide from the NWM. Didn't know the correct operational term till now. In Germany, we call this the timetable, in its diverse versions; we have the regular, printed timetable, in integrated (times and speeds in one book) or divided (divided into FzH (Fahrzeitenheft) containing the times and GeH (Geschwindigkeitenheft) containing the speeds and other information) display; a timetable for special cases like not enough brake percentage, special trains, extraordinary trains as Fahrplananmitteilung/Fahrplananordnung which usually is simply a reference to a regular timetable or an Umleitungsfahrplan (timetable for rerouting) and additional information; a compilation of temporary speed restrictions and other noteworthinesses (La); and the electronic EBuLa which replaces the regular printed timetable and in the near future also the La.
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Post by alex_farlie on Mon May 21, 2012 8:40 pm

Quork wrote:I know the term PSR guide from the NWM. Didn't know the correct operational term till now. In Germany, we call this the timetable, in its diverse versions; we have the regular, printed timetable, in integrated (times and speeds in one book) or divided (divided into FzH (Fahrzeitenheft) containing the times and GeH (Geschwindigkeitenheft) containing the speeds and other information) display; a timetable for special cases like not enough brake percentage, special trains, extraordinary trains as Fahrplananmitteilung/Fahrplananordnung which usually is simply a reference to a regular timetable or an Umleitungsfahrplan (timetable for rerouting) and additional information; a compilation of temporary speed restrictions and other noteworthinesses (La); and the electronic EBuLa which replaces the regular printed timetable and in the near future also the La.

What you describe in relation to train timings sounds like what in the UK is called a 'working timetable', which in it's UK incarnation is strictly
the timing data, not the defined operational speeds for the route Smile

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Post by alex_farlie on Mon May 21, 2012 8:43 pm

Quork wrote:I know the term PSR guide from the NWM. Didn't know the correct operational term till now. In Germany, we call this the timetable, in its diverse versions; we have the regular, printed timetable, in integrated (times and speeds in one book) or divided (divided into FzH (Fahrzeitenheft) containing the times and GeH (Geschwindigkeitenheft) containing the speeds and other information) display; a timetable for special cases like not enough brake percentage, special trains, extraordinary trains as Fahrplananmitteilung/Fahrplananordnung which usually is simply a reference to a regular timetable or an Umleitungsfahrplan (timetable for rerouting) and additional information; a compilation of temporary speed restrictions and other noteworthinesses (La); and the electronic EBuLa which replaces the regular printed timetable and in the near future also the La.

OK Here goes with some unofficial translations... DB term on the left, UK(BR) on the right..

Fzh - Working timetable
GeH - Sectional Appendix ( which IIRC doesn't contain any Timing information in the UK)
La - Periodical Operating Notice (which contains TSR notifcations and line closures)

Anyone here that's actually in the UK rail sector like to comment? (and in any case this part of thread should move...)





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Re: Waterville to Newbridge

Post by hurricanemk1c on Mon May 21, 2012 9:01 pm

OK - both will be done

On the Irish WTT's, basic PSR's are in the front before timings etc. with a special column for 201's (heaviest loco in Ireland)
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Re: Waterville to Newbridge

Post by Northern Line on Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:10 am

Well it has been a while but I was wondering if there is anymore yummy irish pictures of this route yet to be seen? Also when are you looking at a release?


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Re: Waterville to Newbridge

Post by graymac on Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:23 pm

The new route mileage is all completed. The (enormous) task is to combine it into the existing routes to allow extended journeys. Some upgrading of the earlier routes is needed. The BWR-2012 release (with 25 diagrams compared to 16 in the last release) is expected before the autumn at latest, unless there are unforeseen problems.
Although you ought to know better than ask for release dates, you should know the rules by now Smile
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Post by Northern Line on Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:29 pm

Yes I know. Sorry I'd forgotten about that, thanks and glad to hear.
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